It's been 9 months since our last episode (sorry) so this was a bit of a revival episode, served with extra delicious waffles. We talked about a bunch of stuff, pricing, getting up early, workshops, wombs, harps, granddads, Hey Duggee and Perch. We also had a bit of an announcement!

Drew McLellan, co-creator of Perch CMS, joined us this week to talk in depth about Perch and Perch Runway. We talked about their history and development, where Drew sees them in relation to the host of other CMSs out there (including WordPress of course), what their future holds, and the future of web development as a whole.

We were joined by developer, professional Yorkshireman and friend of the show Andy Bell. We talked about the problem of gate keeping in the web industry the tendency to deploy dogmatic or arbitrary standards to keep people out.

This episode we talk about being overwhelmed, out of our depth or burned-out. It's something most developers suffer with at some point. We try and identify what some of the causes of pressure are and what we can do to stay sane.